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	<description>Celebrating the Joys of Parenting and Childhood</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monday Teeny Poll &#187; Teeny Manolo</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-18359</link>
		<dc:creator>Monday Teeny Poll &#187; Teeny Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last week&#8217;s poll regarding Southwest Airlines and their actions against a particular family ignited quite the firestorm in the comment section, but had fifty six percent claiming they didn&#8217;t have enough information to make a decision about the situation one way or another. Thirty two percent felt that since two of the children had disabilities, (although it was not made public which of the children the airline took issue with) Southwest should have been a bit kinder. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last week&#8217;s poll regarding Southwest Airlines and their actions against a particular family ignited quite the firestorm in the comment section, but had fifty six percent claiming they didn&#8217;t have enough information to make a decision about the situation one way or another. Thirty two percent felt that since two of the children had disabilities, (although it was not made public which of the children the airline took issue with) Southwest should have been a bit kinder. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-18187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one has enough facts here, ladies!  Maybe there was no choice but to take the kids (death in the family, father shipping out, etc...) No one in their right mind flies alone with 4 children.  2 of the kids would have had to sit in seats without a parent because airlines don't allow 3 children in a row. We don't know! The kids may be angels but acted out because they had never flown.  A lot of children can't handle the pressure changes and cry or fret because of inner ear pain.  We don't know.  Give the poor mom a break and let me know how you do with 4 young children on a flight.  (My mom had 4 airsick kids on a series of flights from Fairbanks, Alaska to Washington DC! Military transfer. She was ready to leave us in Chicago! LOL!!!)  

And if you are dreading your nephew attending because of behavior issues, ask your fiance to have a few polite words with his parents or both of you volunteer to take him out a few times and practice restaurant behavior.  Drugging a child, while certainly tempting, is really illegal and frowned upon in most circles unless under a doctor's orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has enough facts here, ladies!  Maybe there was no choice but to take the kids (death in the family, father shipping out, etc&#8230;) No one in their right mind flies alone with 4 children.  2 of the kids would have had to sit in seats without a parent because airlines don&#8217;t allow 3 children in a row. We don&#8217;t know! The kids may be angels but acted out because they had never flown.  A lot of children can&#8217;t handle the pressure changes and cry or fret because of inner ear pain.  We don&#8217;t know.  Give the poor mom a break and let me know how you do with 4 young children on a flight.  (My mom had 4 airsick kids on a series of flights from Fairbanks, Alaska to Washington DC! Military transfer. She was ready to leave us in Chicago! LOL!!!)  </p>
<p>And if you are dreading your nephew attending because of behavior issues, ask your fiance to have a few polite words with his parents or both of you volunteer to take him out a few times and practice restaurant behavior.  Drugging a child, while certainly tempting, is really illegal and frowned upon in most circles unless under a doctor&#8217;s orders.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-18033</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Class factotum.  I think this is really All About You.  You also stated that a child with a disability should be drugged because you are inconvenienced by his behavior when he is your guest in a public place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class factotum.  I think this is really All About You.  You also stated that a child with a disability should be drugged because you are inconvenienced by his behavior when he is your guest in a public place.</p>
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		<title>By: class-factotum</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-17869</link>
		<dc:creator>class-factotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, Phyllis. I did not claim to know all there is to know about CP based on watching one Youtube video. What I was getting at was the the CP kid could have been one of the out of control kids because 1) she was not in a wheelchair as far as I could tell and 2) she seemed to be able to control at least her arm and finger muscles, which means that it could be possible that it was just the two disabled kids who were wreaking havoc and that the two others could have been perfect angels.

That said, having a physical disability does not excuse one's bad behavior. Again, my limited understanding of CP (I read "Karen" when I was in fifth grade) is that it does not necessarily include mental retardation, so if the girl is mobile and not retarded, her excuse for bad behavior at such a young age is that her mother hasn't raised her right. Pretty much all of us, I think, remember The Look our mothers would give us as kids in public that meant Stop That Right Now Or Else There Will Be Consequences And I Don't Mean Maybe, Missy. Where was that mother's Look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, Phyllis. I did not claim to know all there is to know about CP based on watching one Youtube video. What I was getting at was the the CP kid could have been one of the out of control kids because 1) she was not in a wheelchair as far as I could tell and 2) she seemed to be able to control at least her arm and finger muscles, which means that it could be possible that it was just the two disabled kids who were wreaking havoc and that the two others could have been perfect angels.</p>
<p>That said, having a physical disability does not excuse one&#8217;s bad behavior. Again, my limited understanding of CP (I read &#8220;Karen&#8221; when I was in fifth grade) is that it does not necessarily include mental retardation, so if the girl is mobile and not retarded, her excuse for bad behavior at such a young age is that her mother hasn&#8217;t raised her right. Pretty much all of us, I think, remember The Look our mothers would give us as kids in public that meant Stop That Right Now Or Else There Will Be Consequences And I Don&#8217;t Mean Maybe, Missy. Where was that mother&#8217;s Look?</p>
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		<title>By: La BellaDonna</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-17846</link>
		<dc:creator>La BellaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Phyllis,&lt;/b&gt; I believe your original objection was to whether or not the Southwest story was genuine; it appears as if it was - and it is certainly in keeping with other tales I've heard regarding Southwest, including booting the young ladies for being dressed "too revealingly."  They've also booted people for being "too fat."

Without getting involved, for the moment, in the whether or not Southwest should be ejecting people (I'm not a big Southwest fan), I absolutely &lt;b&gt;DO&lt;/b&gt; think that parties so evicted are entitled, at the least, to the return of their money.

I am also not a fan of poorly-behaved persons, including children, on plane flights.  I endured one particularly badly-behaved toddler running up and down the aisles, whose parent did nothing to stop said behavior.  The toddler did stop, though, after tripping over the cramping legs that someone had stretched out into the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Phyllis,</b> I believe your original objection was to whether or not the Southwest story was genuine; it appears as if it was - and it is certainly in keeping with other tales I&#8217;ve heard regarding Southwest, including booting the young ladies for being dressed &#8220;too revealingly.&#8221;  They&#8217;ve also booted people for being &#8220;too fat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Without getting involved, for the moment, in the whether or not Southwest should be ejecting people (I&#8217;m not a big Southwest fan), I absolutely <b>DO</b> think that parties so evicted are entitled, at the least, to the return of their money.</p>
<p>I am also not a fan of poorly-behaved persons, including children, on plane flights.  I endured one particularly badly-behaved toddler running up and down the aisles, whose parent did nothing to stop said behavior.  The toddler did stop, though, after tripping over the cramping legs that someone had stretched out into the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-17784</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So class factotum - you really know all you there is to know about Cerebral Palsy based on a YouTube video?  Pretty thin “research” if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So class factotum - you really know all you there is to know about Cerebral Palsy based on a YouTube video?  Pretty thin “research” if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-17762</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have kids and have traveled enough to say good for Southwest.  This is not about the poor disabled kids.  This to seems an example of the general lack of personal responsibility that people espouse.  When my parents took me anywhere, be it plane or grocery store I was behaved and there would be no sceaming, yelling, or making a scene in public because I knew the consequences.  

In this particular case I leave responsibility to the family.  If these kids were running around in a dangerous fashion it is the responsibility of the responsible adults to settle them down.  It is entirely possible that the adults also behaved inappropriately in response to concerns from the airlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have kids and have traveled enough to say good for Southwest.  This is not about the poor disabled kids.  This to seems an example of the general lack of personal responsibility that people espouse.  When my parents took me anywhere, be it plane or grocery store I was behaved and there would be no sceaming, yelling, or making a scene in public because I knew the consequences.  </p>
<p>In this particular case I leave responsibility to the family.  If these kids were running around in a dangerous fashion it is the responsibility of the responsible adults to settle them down.  It is entirely possible that the adults also behaved inappropriately in response to concerns from the airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: class-factotum</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-17740</link>
		<dc:creator>class-factotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK -- just saw a youtube clip with the kids and the CP kid doesn't look like she's in a wheelchair and indeed, looks like she has very strong command of her motor skills (brushed her hair out of her face).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8212; just saw a youtube clip with the kids and the CP kid doesn&#8217;t look like she&#8217;s in a wheelchair and indeed, looks like she has very strong command of her motor skills (brushed her hair out of her face).</p>
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		<title>By: class-factotum</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-17739</link>
		<dc:creator>class-factotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyllis, as I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, it was the two non-disabled kids who were acting up. Excuse my ignorance, but if you have CP, you can't walk, right? And it was the "kids" who were getting out of their seats and running, so it couldn't have been just the autistic one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyllis, as I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago, it was the two non-disabled kids who were acting up. Excuse my ignorance, but if you have CP, you can&#8217;t walk, right? And it was the &#8220;kids&#8221; who were getting out of their seats and running, so it couldn&#8217;t have been just the autistic one.</p>
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		<title>By: raincoaster</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/07/21/monday-teeny-poll-42/#comment-17713</link>
		<dc:creator>raincoaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the story appears to be quite genuine, actually. This is also the airline that refused to fly at least two women so far this year because they were dressed "too revealingly." As well, not all parents are as conscientious as you, Phyllis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the story appears to be quite genuine, actually. This is also the airline that refused to fly at least two women so far this year because they were dressed &#8220;too revealingly.&#8221; As well, not all parents are as conscientious as you, Phyllis.</p>
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