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	<title>Comments on: At What Price Education?</title>
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		<title>By: Glinda</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8122</link>
		<dc:creator>Glinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eilish- I agree with you about the "fad" thing.  They dropped phonics for a long time and guess what is back with great success? Of course, phonics!

@dani- Thanks for your input!  It's always nice to get the perspective from one who is actually still in school!  Because us old people forget a lot of the time what it was like! ;)

@Phalene- You made me laugh with that!

@Dent- I think it is critical for a school to have an involved, caring parent community.  From what I hear, the public school has one as well.

@Lisa- I wasn't saying it was a natural progression for everyone, but a natural progression in my mind.  Such as, he would simply continue at the same school rather than switching over to public.

@Sandy- I wouldn't put the entire monthly amount away, but we have already established a 529 plan, and we are big savers already as well.  And listen, I've already got a cheap car and we don't go on vacations!

The point here is that I am not currently working full time and thus the sacrifice would be HUGE and I'm not sure that big of a sacrifice is worth it when the local public schools are top-rated.  Whereas the private ones do not test, and so it is difficult to tell exactly how good they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eilish- I agree with you about the &#8220;fad&#8221; thing.  They dropped phonics for a long time and guess what is back with great success? Of course, phonics!</p>
<p>@dani- Thanks for your input!  It&#8217;s always nice to get the perspective from one who is actually still in school!  Because us old people forget a lot of the time what it was like! <img src='http://teenymanolo.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Phalene- You made me laugh with that!</p>
<p>@Dent- I think it is critical for a school to have an involved, caring parent community.  From what I hear, the public school has one as well.</p>
<p>@Lisa- I wasn&#8217;t saying it was a natural progression for everyone, but a natural progression in my mind.  Such as, he would simply continue at the same school rather than switching over to public.</p>
<p>@Sandy- I wouldn&#8217;t put the entire monthly amount away, but we have already established a 529 plan, and we are big savers already as well.  And listen, I&#8217;ve already got a cheap car and we don&#8217;t go on vacations!</p>
<p>The point here is that I am not currently working full time and thus the sacrifice would be HUGE and I&#8217;m not sure that big of a sacrifice is worth it when the local public schools are top-rated.  Whereas the private ones do not test, and so it is difficult to tell exactly how good they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8116</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You only have one shot at the RIGHT educations.  There are no do overs!!  Sacrifice for your childs education.  They are so worth it.  
Maybe a cheaper car, and do we really need to spend that much on a vacation?  
And would you really put that money aside for college??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You only have one shot at the RIGHT educations.  There are no do overs!!  Sacrifice for your childs education.  They are so worth it.<br />
Maybe a cheaper car, and do we really need to spend that much on a vacation?<br />
And would you really put that money aside for college??</p>
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		<title>By: Dent</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8101</link>
		<dc:creator>Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the upper midwest where public schools are generally regarded as just as good, if not better, than the private schools in the same area. The difference is, as others have pointed out, you're paying for school twice (taxpayer dollars and tuition) and most private schools have a religious slant. Which seems to be the main reason most parents send their children to private school around here.

My grandparents would have been considered to be at the poverty level but because of their religious beliefs they insisted on sending all 10 (TEN!) of their children to private school up through high school. My mother wanted to send my sister and I to private school as well but opted for public school instead. Personally I don't think it would have mattered as far as education goes, my parents would simply have been poorer because of it.

I have cousins who live in areas where public school is simply not an option, however, due to violence and poor education. It's troubling and hard to change, but I hope someday parents can feel free to send their children to any public school with confidence and trust.

But as others have stated, the first step is an involved and committed parent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the upper midwest where public schools are generally regarded as just as good, if not better, than the private schools in the same area. The difference is, as others have pointed out, you&#8217;re paying for school twice (taxpayer dollars and tuition) and most private schools have a religious slant. Which seems to be the main reason most parents send their children to private school around here.</p>
<p>My grandparents would have been considered to be at the poverty level but because of their religious beliefs they insisted on sending all 10 (TEN!) of their children to private school up through high school. My mother wanted to send my sister and I to private school as well but opted for public school instead. Personally I don&#8217;t think it would have mattered as far as education goes, my parents would simply have been poorer because of it.</p>
<p>I have cousins who live in areas where public school is simply not an option, however, due to violence and poor education. It&#8217;s troubling and hard to change, but I hope someday parents can feel free to send their children to any public school with confidence and trust.</p>
<p>But as others have stated, the first step is an involved and committed parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8098</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a teacher in a fantastic public school, my rule is always go with what is best for your kid.  

A good public school or even a mediocre public school with supportive teachers or peers can give a kid a fantastic education.  However, some kids need smaller class sizes than the public schools can offer; and some need an alternative to the public school curriculum or learning environment.  

Usually good public school systems have small class sizes in kindergarten, so why not start the Munchkin in the public school?  As one commenter said above, you can always make a switch.  

I am also curious as to why you see going from a private preschool to a private kindergarten as a "natural progression," when just about everyone who is in preschool is in a private preschool?  There is no public preschool option in most U.S. communities, so lots of kids go from private preschool to public school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teacher in a fantastic public school, my rule is always go with what is best for your kid.  </p>
<p>A good public school or even a mediocre public school with supportive teachers or peers can give a kid a fantastic education.  However, some kids need smaller class sizes than the public schools can offer; and some need an alternative to the public school curriculum or learning environment.  </p>
<p>Usually good public school systems have small class sizes in kindergarten, so why not start the Munchkin in the public school?  As one commenter said above, you can always make a switch.  </p>
<p>I am also curious as to why you see going from a private preschool to a private kindergarten as a &#8220;natural progression,&#8221; when just about everyone who is in preschool is in a private preschool?  There is no public preschool option in most U.S. communities, so lots of kids go from private preschool to public school.</p>
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		<title>By: Phalene</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8094</link>
		<dc:creator>Phalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*environment, oops. See? Awful public school!</description>
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		<title>By: Phalene</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8092</link>
		<dc:creator>Phalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the choice I make about the education of my future spawn will depend on the enviroment at the time, but I'd rather send the future mothlings (mothlets?) to private school if my options are the same as what I was given as a child with public school. This is strictly non-negotiable as long as there's an actual advantage for the child, to the extent that I will manufacture footware out of discarded food stamps if need be.

But I don't have children yet, and you know what they say about non-parents and their naive plans. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the choice I make about the education of my future spawn will depend on the enviroment at the time, but I&#8217;d rather send the future mothlings (mothlets?) to private school if my options are the same as what I was given as a child with public school. This is strictly non-negotiable as long as there&#8217;s an actual advantage for the child, to the extent that I will manufacture footware out of discarded food stamps if need be.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t have children yet, and you know what they say about non-parents and their naive plans. <img src='http://teenymanolo.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: dani</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8088</link>
		<dc:creator>dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here from the manolo's weekend links, and perhaps my perspective will be much different because I myself am still a teenager in school. I've been to 3 private and 5 public schools. As I'm sure has been said, the circumstances for private vs. public schooling are important and very varied. Some kids really do exceed in a public school environment, particularly if the schools are good. Even though the public school I currently go to is, apparently, very good and ranked on all these lists, I personally don't enjoy it. I find that private schools offer smaller classes, more freedom, and closer relationships with people. It's not always the book learning that makes a school good, although I feel like more personalized lessons and more accessible teachers have helped me to learn better. My two younger siblings are also very bright, but they enjoy public school just fine. In my family the "different for everyone" concept is demonstrated.

Since your son is still young, I would think that you should make the executive decision. As he becomes older and you can get more of a sense what he needs/wants intellectually, I really encourage having a discussion about it. My mother and I talk(ed) about education a lot, and even though it's "my" education, from parental standpoint her input is always helpful.

Hopefully that was somewhat insightful? Good luck with your choice of shoes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here from the manolo&#8217;s weekend links, and perhaps my perspective will be much different because I myself am still a teenager in school. I&#8217;ve been to 3 private and 5 public schools. As I&#8217;m sure has been said, the circumstances for private vs. public schooling are important and very varied. Some kids really do exceed in a public school environment, particularly if the schools are good. Even though the public school I currently go to is, apparently, very good and ranked on all these lists, I personally don&#8217;t enjoy it. I find that private schools offer smaller classes, more freedom, and closer relationships with people. It&#8217;s not always the book learning that makes a school good, although I feel like more personalized lessons and more accessible teachers have helped me to learn better. My two younger siblings are also very bright, but they enjoy public school just fine. In my family the &#8220;different for everyone&#8221; concept is demonstrated.</p>
<p>Since your son is still young, I would think that you should make the executive decision. As he becomes older and you can get more of a sense what he needs/wants intellectually, I really encourage having a discussion about it. My mother and I talk(ed) about education a lot, and even though it&#8217;s &#8220;my&#8221; education, from parental standpoint her input is always helpful.</p>
<p>Hopefully that was somewhat insightful? Good luck with your choice of shoes!</p>
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		<title>By: The Manolo Week in Review &#187; Manolo's Shoe Blog</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8082</link>
		<dc:creator>The Manolo Week in Review &#187; Manolo's Shoe Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Glinda&#8230; I do care about the education my son receives. I care a lot. But do I care 550 dollars a month care? I’m not sure. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Glinda&#8230; I do care about the education my son receives. I care a lot. But do I care 550 dollars a month care? I’m not sure. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eilish</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8045</link>
		<dc:creator>Eilish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was teaching, in a middle/working class public school, I felt like too often, kids were used as guinea pigs for this or that new educational philosophy (which was encouraged by the administration) and many fell through the cracks. This, combined with a limited budget made my husband and I consider homeschooling as an option. While it doesn't work for all people, it is nice that we have choices. Make yours based on the individual school and the individual kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was teaching, in a middle/working class public school, I felt like too often, kids were used as guinea pigs for this or that new educational philosophy (which was encouraged by the administration) and many fell through the cracks. This, combined with a limited budget made my husband and I consider homeschooling as an option. While it doesn&#8217;t work for all people, it is nice that we have choices. Make yours based on the individual school and the individual kid.</p>
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		<title>By: dgm</title>
		<link>http://teenymanolo.com/2008/03/06/what-price-education/#comment-8036</link>
		<dc:creator>dgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sidian, I wouldn't say you're being classist.  You simply prioritize your values differently. Some people value the abstract idea of public schools over the reality of public schools on the lives of individuals. It's easier to support the abstraction when your own kids aren't trapped in shitty schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sidian, I wouldn&#8217;t say you&#8217;re being classist.  You simply prioritize your values differently. Some people value the abstract idea of public schools over the reality of public schools on the lives of individuals. It&#8217;s easier to support the abstraction when your own kids aren&#8217;t trapped in shitty schools.</p>
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